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DOG - Is the only one required to have a rabies vaccination.

So why are we not seeing raging epidemics everywhere else?

TWICE as many cases in CATS as in dogs.

Who do you believe??
From the Michigan Dept. of Agriculture.
http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-12 ... --,00.html
"This year, ten bats, eight skunks, and two horses in Michigan have been diagnosed with rabies."

Emerging Diseases

Are you suggesting I made these figures up?

I simply put them into a multi-year chart for ease of comparison.

Straight off the MDA website!

Maybe you would like to verify them...................ah

That article is from 1999! Can't you find anything a little more recent? or relevant?

Like this from the CDC last year. CDC

Who ya gonna believe the CDC in 2007 or the MDA from 1999?

Been there, done that.

My figures also came from the MDA. did you look at the web site I posted?

That article is from 1999! Can't you find anything a little more recent? or relevant?

Like this from the CDC last year. CDC

Who ya gonna believe the CDC in 2007 or the MDA from 1999?

Been there, done that.

Damn! Caught me again!!!

Oh well, you tried....hey, if it works once........

But you'll never get those veterinarians to say we don't need to vaccinate dogs.
That is the bread and butter of a veterinarians business. They won't put their fellow vets out of business.

Just ran across this article. Very interesting. Air drops

Bait dropping around San Antonio to keep fox, etc borne rabies from getting to "huge free-ranging dog population" in and around San Antonio and then to people. That means the "free-ranging dogs" were strays that were most likely not vaccinated.

P.S. It does kinda support my position.

Well Fritz, did you read that article?

I also sent that article to a friend of mine in Ontario, where I knew they did the bait drops a few years back.
She is a retired biology teacher...........ring any bells Fritz?
She lived and worked closer to Windsor, Ontario. When she retired she bought a place closer to London.
She also raised dogs since forever. this is what she sent back.

"They did this here in Ontario. When I first moved here, helicopters were dropping along the river. (boundary to her property)
When my fav pup Tee went into seizure and I had to lose him, we wondered if it could be poison from the farm, but I also worried.

What if a dog is already vaccinated for rabies, and eates one or more of these baits?

Last year at this time I lost a 7 yr old collie to AIHA. She had been in another home, and i took her back.
In order to get her redy for a new home, I got her vaccinated for rabies because I didn`t have the certificate from 7 months earlier - different vet somewhere.
Anyway, she died. Might have been the double vaccination. I`m pretty scared about rabies vaccines."

I don't know what AIHA is. I asked, but she hasn't answered, yet.

But there are reasons to be worried about the rabies vaccine and overuse of it. Most people who lose a dog just don't say anything about it.

Rabies Elimination in Dogs in the United States
[Announcer] This podcast is presented by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. CDC – safer, healthier people.
[Ted Pestorius] Hello. I'm Ted Pestorius. And today, we’re talking with Dr. Charles Rupprecht, chief of CDC’s rabies program.
And we’re here to discuss a paper he co-authored in the December 2008 issue of CDC’s journal Emerging Infectious Diseases.
The paper discusses rabies elimination from dogs in the United States and its re-emergence in wild animals. So, Dr. Rupprecht, welcome.

the rest of the story

Now, tell me, just exactly why granny's silky terrier needs to be vaccinated for rabies.
Do ya really think that little dog is going to come into contact with wild animals?

from the article referenced in this podcast

Discussion
On the basis of phylogenetic analysis in conjunction with historic and recent epizootiologic data on rabies, we found no evidence of enzootic dog rabies in the United States for the past 13 years, (1,15,16,18,19,30). Our findings suggest that independent rabies enzootics are now established in wild terrestrial carnivores (skunks in California and the north-central United States, gray foxes in Texas and Arizona, and mongooses in Puerto Rico), as a consequence of different spillover events from the long-term rabies enzootics associated with dogs (31).

Enzootic Rabies Elimination from Dogs and Reemergence in Wild Terrestrial Carnivores, United States

From the conclusion of the article you cite:



The article also spends quite a bit of time discussing the worldwide nature of rabies and its transmission and propagation. Much of the US incidence of Rabies in canines is due to infected animals in Mexico crossing into the US and infecting local populations. The article essentially states that worldwide eradication of canine rabies is required in order to eliminate the threat. Keep on getting those rabies shots for your dogs, as a safety precaution. All it takes is one accidental and unknown exposure to create a new local outbreak.

Makes perfect sence to me

I will admit I am confused, Kaylor, from "the rest of the story":"[Dr. Rupprecht] That’s a very good question, Ted. We have to recognize that, although the elimination of a canine rabies virus variant has occurred, that is there’s no more dog-to-dog-to-dog transmission in the United States, that does not mean that rabies isn’t here anymore or that you don’t have to have your pets vaccinated. All of the rabies viruses that we have in the United States can still infect your dogs and cats and so routine veterinary examination is still critical. And moreover when people visit other parts of the world, they have to recognize that rabies in dogs there is still very important. Just because we’ve eliminated one rabies virus here, does not mean that other rabies viruses still don’t pose as problems in the United States and abroad."

You said yourself because you live in the country and have raccoons running around you vaccinate your dogs. Don't you think there are raccoons in the city? I still don't understand why you insist dogs don't have to be vaccinated and to support your case you post information that says we SHOULD vaccinate our dogs. Also, how do you EXAMINE a dog for rabies? Wait for them to die? No veterinarian that has a brain is going to touch a dog that is showing the symptoms of rabies.
Still confused in Owosso, Michigan

shoot the coon...
problem solved

Living in Owosso is not a guarantee of less exposure to wildlife. I have had a Raccoon on my back porch, that was treed in the porch support structure by my dog. There is enough nearby woods and drainage ditches that wildlife can hide and travel safely in many parts of the city.